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Originally Posted by onetwo_threefour
Israeli military respnse is overbroad and damages the moral high ground they should otherwise be able to hold IMHO.
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I disagree. I think the people who have chosen to hate Israel, are going to hate it no matter what happens. They will find an excuse. Whether its exaggerating racial segregation within Israeli society, or denying the effect of Palestinian attacks, they will find an excuse to find Israel fundamentally wrong.
This IMO is where the danger starts. When people start to analyze the Israeli motivations and what being an Israeli or a Jew is, that is where anti-semitism enters the debate very quickly.
The problem is most people making such statements have never been to Israel or met an Israeli. How many times have I heard "Israel shouldn't be in the middle east, because Israelis are white". Or "Jews are just a religious group, therefore they don't deserve sovereignty", or the reverse "the establishment of Israel is racist in itself" (funny, how they can simultaneously not a be an ethnic/racial group, yet be racist at the same time). The most egregious seems to be, "the US only supports Israel because Jews own all the money in the US". People then replace the words Jews with Israelis lobbyists and for some reason think we don't know what they are getting at.