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Originally posted by Agamemnon+Jun 13 2005, 08:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Jun 13 2005, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dominicwasalreadytaken@Jun 13 2005, 06:53 PM
It goes way way deeper than that, and I have no interest in explaining it to you, but the NT does not 'lay to waste' the OT. It is more of a fulfillment, or coming to terms of the OT.
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Oh. Too bad you don't have the interest.
I could have sworn from my years and years of Catholic school that the 'rules' from the OT to the NT changed fundamentally, and that things that were 'legal' in the first became 'illegal' in the second. That's definitely different than a 'fulfilment' of the Old Testament. Of course, I didn't pay much attention in religion class because it was super-boring.
edit: 'lay to waste' was my attempt at biblical talk. Feel free to semantic it up however you please. [/b][/quote]
I'm not overly interested in this argument, primarily for the same reason I try to stay out of the political threads. What's the point? If I ever saw an argument of this magnitude change someone's viewpoint on a topic it might be worth my while, but as it is, meh, I can't really be bothered.
A lot of Christians get a bad rep because of the few in the media that take crazy fanatical stances that are obviously both offensive and motive based. Come join my church and pay us lots of money so that I can become rich!!
Most all of the Christians I know are pretty level headed and really aren't out to convert you. If you want to hear my story I'll tell you, but all you really need to know is that I'm a Christian and I have no problem with you, so you shouldn't have a problem with me. There are a lot of offensive atheists out there. I'm not going to judge every single one on that premise. As photon said, it's not my place to judge.
As for the fulfillment thing, I'm no theologian, but this is how I understand it. Most of the laws that are pulled out of Leviticus were instituted not for religious reasons, but for health and welness, law and order, and the like. There are others that are directly linked to religion, and those are the ones that were fulfilled with the coming of Christ. For example, the OT says that you cannot sleep with your neighbour's wife. In the NT, Jesus says that to simply lust after another man's wife is to commit adultery. There are many other examples where an OT law is 'changed' in the NT, not to make it more relevant to that day and time, but as a fulfillment to the law.
I'm not putting this together very well, but I hope you at least understand where I'm coming from. The NT didn't abolish the OT laws, but fulfilled them. The laws took on a new meaning with the coming of Christ, if you will.