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Old 06-10-2005, 01:44 AM   #95
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Originally posted by "Flames Draft Watcher"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ("Flames Draft Watcher")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I see exploitation when the choice is between starving to death and barely surviving working every day for 12 hours a day. That's not a choice, that's like having a gun to your head and being forced to "agree" as you term it.[/b]


Actually there is a world of difference between these two. Don’t you see the difference between objective condition of the world (ie one will starve if he does not eat, one does not eat if he doesn’t buy food, one doesn’t buy food if he doesn’t earn money, one doesn’t earn money if he doesn’t work) and purposeful act of aggression?

If you are “forced” to breathe, is the nature holding a gun to your head? Natural causes are not comparable to acts of aggression. How can you not see that?


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Obviously you aren't very informed about sweatshops, about 3rd world labour. Your theories are nice but you haven't spent enough time looking at reality and what's actually going on in the world.[/quote]

Nice assumption, but wrong one. You may be surprised but I don’t pronounce strong statements on topics I know nothing about. To this day, you have not proven that my theories are not connected with reality. All my economic theories are based on one fact – humans act in a world of scarce resources. That’s it. Period. Everything else logically leads from that. How is that removed from reality, I don’t know. Maybe you will enlighten me?

Sweat show labor is paid peanuts because of:

- High socialization of the countries they work in
- High supply of low skilled labor
- Relative low demand for this labor (yet you still keep thinking that Nike and the like should pull out, this lowering demand even more)
- High barriers to international trade, ie protectionism in the US, Canada, the EU, Australia etc. that cripples comparative advantage of low skilled workers in 3rd world countries
- Low productivity of sweat shop labor (careful, it doesn’t mean they don’t work hard, as an example, you can work your ass off an a farm in desert but you will not grow anything) combined with lack of eductation, specialized skills etc.
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