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photon · 01-26-2009, 03:41 PM

True, and deists were looked down upon as as bad as atheists at one point by Christians, but now they're more buddy buddy.

During the Kansas trial for the stickers in textbooks about evolution, the Christians were always talking about the atheists this, the atheists that, when some of the most compelling testimony against intelligent design was given by a Christian, while on the flip side one of the star witnesses for intelligent design rejects a young earth and accepts an old earth and common descent; to things the Kansas Christians attribute to the "evil atheist agenda to corrupt our children"! But he wasn't referred to as an atheist...

I agree it is about context, and I think labels can get in the way a great deal. That's why I'd rather use the words as they are defined, and if there's something else to discuss, then discuss that. Many times people argue against "atheists" when in fact they're arguing against philosophical naturalism, or against nihilism, or something else.

01-26-2009, 03:41 PM	#142
photon The new goggles also do nothing. Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Calgary Exp:	True, and deists were looked down upon as as bad as atheists at one point by Christians, but now they're more buddy buddy. During the Kansas trial for the stickers in textbooks about evolution, the Christians were always talking about the atheists this, the atheists that, when some of the most compelling testimony against intelligent design was given by a Christian, while on the flip side one of the star witnesses for intelligent design rejects a young earth and accepts an old earth and common descent; to things the Kansas Christians attribute to the "evil atheist agenda to corrupt our children"! But he wasn't referred to as an atheist... I agree it is about context, and I think labels can get in the way a great deal. That's why I'd rather use the words as they are defined, and if there's something else to discuss, then discuss that. Many times people argue against "atheists" when in fact they're arguing against philosophical naturalism, or against nihilism, or something else. __________________ Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position. But certainty is an absurd one.