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Old 01-25-2009, 11:40 AM   #122
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I am in no way a religious guy...and certainly understand both theists and atheists way of approaching how they look at the subject.

What I really dont understand is the belittling that happens on both sides of the debate. Fundamentalism/extremism is seen on both sides and it leads to....nothing but more of the same.

No one should be 'forced" to have to listen to anyone espousing their beliefs if that person does not share them, but IMO there is little harm in politely declining to listen. (not accusing anyone of that in THIS thread) However, there is little doubt that there are some atheists that actually think that "flying spaghetti monster' is an appropriate comparison to what they believe god to be...when the person they are discussing with have deep and very real feelings/beliefs that god is a very legitimate entity (whatever form it may take). It's embarrassing IMO and makes it extremely difficult to have a real discussion. its like calling them completely stupid for having a belief system that the other does not comprehend. Where would humanity be if that was always the case? Arrogance usually stops any good discussion...and it appears on both sides of the debate, but moreso from the atheists.

There is a terrific book that covers this very subject and for anyone interested in seeing how these conversations can be carried out in a real way and for some really thought provoking stuff i suggest it as a mandatory read.

Its called "The reason for God: Belief in an age of skepticism" Certianly provided me with some answers as well as new questions...from both perspectives.

http://www.amazon.com/Reason-God-Bel.../dp/0525950494

From a reader review at Amazon...
I actually read that book tranny. Its a great book for hardcore believers in my mind. He makes a lot of repetitive justifications that you find here.
In my mind its written for apologists who wanted something more than the bible to read.
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