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Originally Posted by transplant99
What I really dont understand is the belittling that happens on both sides of the debate. Fundamentalism/extremism is seen on both sides and it leads to....nothing but more of the same.
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Humans are humans, that never stops. Not much you can do about that except just filter it out and try to focus on what's actually being said.
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Originally Posted by transplant99
However, there is little doubt that there are some atheists that actually think that "flying spaghetti monster' is an appropriate comparison to what they believe god to be...when the person they are discussing with have deep and very real feelings/beliefs that god is a very legitimate entity (whatever form it may take). It's embarrassing IMO and makes it extremely difficult to have a real discussion. its like calling them completely stupid for having a belief system that the other does not comprehend. Where would humanity be if that was always the case? Arrogance usually stops any good discussion...and it appears on both sides of the debate, but moreso from the atheists.
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The whole point of the FSM is to pick an entity that clearly is ridiculous, one that a believer would agree does not exist, and then illustrate that if the believer applies the same patters of logic, reasoning, thought, faith, etc (all the things that a believer will say to support their belief in God) to the FSM, then it's easy to see how the logic, reasoning, faith, etc fail, because when applied to the FSM they do not bring about a compelling belief in the FSM.
Do some people do it disrespectfully, sure probably, but again that's human nature. And to say it's the atheists that do it more, I doubt it.
There's enough disrespect to go around, it's an emotionally charged issue, people are emotional, that's just the way it goes.
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Its called "The reason for God: Belief in an age of skepticism" Certianly provided me with some answers as well as new questions...from both perspectives.
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Hm.. looks like a book on apologetics, and from the reviews doesn't seem there's anything new in it. Maybe worth a look though, but one review said that one of the points made in the book is without God we can't tell the difference between right and wrong, which doesn't get my hopes up about the book if that's the level it's at.