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Originally posted by Calgary Flames@Jun 4 2005, 05:47 AM
This isn't being naive at all... 40 in a night ISN'T something to be proud of. Neither is 12, alchohol abuse isn't anything to be proud of. Nor do I find it cool or hip to get shinguardfaced, i've seen alcohol destroy families. Or perhaps I was raised to appreciate and enjoy the poison i'm putting into my system.
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It's been a while since I 've seen one of those threads. I always enjoy those Jordon vs. Captain Planet threads, what can I say?
No, I don't see myself as an alcoholic or having problems with alcohol abuse or what-have-you. I did have one stupid night where I got alcohol poisoning, but thats about it. Nor do I have any family issues with it (obviously) nor do I forsee any problems since I'm generally a happy drunk.
I drink in many different situations... sometimes, to get trashed, sometimes for a social event (house party, ect), sometimes for drinking games just for fun, sometimes just to sit around, have a pint and do some catching up, and sometimes for the taste.
You don't see drinking as something attractive... I can respect that. One of my best friends hates it when I drink, esp after that one stupid night. Whenever I hang out with her, we do the more-girly go out for tea and play piano and watch movies (ya ya, crack it up wise guys). Another one of my close friends (tho not as close) has had family issues with alcohol, and hates to see me drink so much too. So no, I don't think your opinion is "stupid" - in fact, I respect it.
However, I think you are quite niave to think 12 is alcohol abuse. Far from it, in fact. Heck, I had 14 my grade 12 grade night. Look at this very thread, and see how much some can take. Up at school, almost everyone I know can drink me under the table, and half of them can demolish 30-35 cleanly. 12 is not abnormal by any stretch of hte imagination.
I would classify alcohol abuse as someone who consistantly drinks and it causes problems with their social life. I've seen actual "alcoholics" ... one of my friends who had 5 drinks before 8am in the morning, and would have about 25-30 a day. He was put on a program in res within 2 weeks. I also have other friends who drink heavily (being >20) more then 3 times a week. Personally, like I said earlier, I have my nights about once a month (usually, I don't feel drunk until after 10-12)
Also, engineers drink. Lots. Make note of it.