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FurnaceFace · 01-13-2009, 08:25 PM

It's tough to judge this without all the information and background. I used to work at a design and dev company and 6k, depending on the hourly rate, isn't all that tough to get to. Depends on what his requirements were at the beginning and if it was fixed price or hourly. Making the assumption they did everything from the ground up my guess would be:

8-10 hrs for design (initial meetings, complete comps, follow up meetings, revised comps, etc)
4-8 hours for the Flash banner (depending on revisions)
8-12 hours to code depending on what was required. If there is a Content Management System (which there doesn't appear to be) in the background it'll add some time, some time to setup Paypal
4 hrs of testing
4+ hrs for meetings, PM time, and admin.
1-2 hrs training if required

So I've got about 30-40hrs and depending on how much back and forth and changes there were that might add to it.

If the company were charging a fixed fee and the requirements were something like: a site for promotion and to sell my books then the developer might have said "build in time to setup e-commerce." Once they discussed it further and the monthly cost of a true ecommerce site was discussed, the client may have wanted a lower cost and they switched to PayPal. PayPal typically isn't a big deal to setup. You do need to setup the account, and get the proper code setup, test in the PayPal sandbox, and then move it to production so there is some time there.

If for argument sake they went with the high end of my estimate and added 50% that would be about 6k at $100/hr...and I think $100/hr is low for a firm so it's likely a higher hourly rate. If say it were $150/hr x 40 hrs isn't hard to reach. I'd say rule of thumb is fixed price is 50% more than the hourly estimate so that could be easily reached.

Also depends if it was just the sign or if there was also logo design or some print work (business cards, etc) also completed.

If he paid hourly then I'd make sure he got an itemized invoice. We would have to comment all our time and our invoices indicated where all the time was spent so it was pretty easy to follow. I would assume this company would provide something similar.

One thing I do notice is in FireFox (I haven't checked IE) if you go to the "On Q Bookstore" link, the top link banner does not show up on the bookstore.html page. Not sure if this is by design or an oops...but something to check.

01-13-2009, 08:25 PM	#35
FurnaceFace Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 110 Exp:	It's tough to judge this without all the information and background. I used to work at a design and dev company and 6k, depending on the hourly rate, isn't all that tough to get to. Depends on what his requirements were at the beginning and if it was fixed price or hourly. Making the assumption they did everything from the ground up my guess would be: 8-10 hrs for design (initial meetings, complete comps, follow up meetings, revised comps, etc) 4-8 hours for the Flash banner (depending on revisions) 8-12 hours to code depending on what was required. If there is a Content Management System (which there doesn't appear to be) in the background it'll add some time, some time to setup Paypal 4 hrs of testing 4+ hrs for meetings, PM time, and admin. 1-2 hrs training if required So I've got about 30-40hrs and depending on how much back and forth and changes there were that might add to it. If the company were charging a fixed fee and the requirements were something like: a site for promotion and to sell my books then the developer might have said "build in time to setup e-commerce." Once they discussed it further and the monthly cost of a true ecommerce site was discussed, the client may have wanted a lower cost and they switched to PayPal. PayPal typically isn't a big deal to setup. You do need to setup the account, and get the proper code setup, test in the PayPal sandbox, and then move it to production so there is some time there. If for argument sake they went with the high end of my estimate and added 50% that would be about 6k at $100/hr...and I think $100/hr is low for a firm so it's likely a higher hourly rate. If say it were $150/hr x 40 hrs isn't hard to reach. I'd say rule of thumb is fixed price is 50% more than the hourly estimate so that could be easily reached. Also depends if it was just the sign or if there was also logo design or some print work (business cards, etc) also completed. If he paid hourly then I'd make sure he got an itemized invoice. We would have to comment all our time and our invoices indicated where all the time was spent so it was pretty easy to follow. I would assume this company would provide something similar. One thing I do notice is in FireFox (I haven't checked IE) if you go to the "On Q Bookstore" link, the top link banner does not show up on the bookstore.html page. Not sure if this is by design or an oops...but something to check. __________________ Last edited by FurnaceFace; 01-13-2009 at 08:29 PM.