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Old 01-09-2009, 12:13 AM   #231
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Israel is not a secular state. It does not have a constitution as such, but try reading the Declaration of Independence at http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/..._of_Indep.html.

To be sure, the rights of non-Jewish citizens are protected and they are not restricted in any way. However, the claim that Israel is a secular state is simply not true; it is a Jewish state no less than Iran, for example, is a Muslim state.

Granting minorities rights has nothing to do with whether or not a state is religiously based, what is important is where the laws and governmental institutions are derived - in Israel, they are derived from the Jewish faith, as is explicitly set out in the Declaration, "it (the State of Israel) will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel".

I don't know how more clearly it can be put than that statement. Arguing over whether or not this religious basis of statehood is good or bad is one thing; flat-out incomprehension of this basic historical fact (oh no - not history again! Can't we pretend the world was created yesterday?) highlights the outright blindness of its proponents.

Oh and for the record, while I don't think invading Gaza will solve anything in the long-term, it's a much more defensible use of force than "precision" bombing. Someone should have strangled Douhet in his crib.
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