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Originally Posted by jammies
Israel has its hardcore haters who try to block any attempt at peace just like the Arabs.
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Jammies, to be honest, if you read your earlier post (4:29 am) you clearly were on an anti Israel rant.
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No, you choose to see it as an anti-Israel rant by ignoring the very first sentence I wrote, and especially the bolded part I have emphasized above. Pointing out where Israel has done wrong is not an "anti-Israeli rant", other than in the minds of people who have already made up their minds that Israel is entirely a victim and not a participant in the violence.
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
You even bring up the Phalangist massacres and pointed an accusing finger at Israel.
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The Israelis supported, supplied and encouraged the Phalangists, and ultimately the massacres happened due to that support; if your bad dog bites, you can't evade the responsibility.
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
If you want to be fair, then be fair.
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I'll just quote this the next time someone asks me to define irony.
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One last point, you say that the religion divides the two sides? How in any way is the Jewish religion a part of the problem? Islam around the world seems to involved in many issues, so why don't you just say what you mean, or are you trying to throw Jews under the bus? Islamic extremism is the issue, not Judaism. That is unless you can explain what you meant.
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I think I'm pretty clear on what I meant - one side is Israeli Jews, the other is Muslim Arabs, and the two have irreconcilable differences. I don't know what fantasyland you are living in where that implies that I'm "throwing Jews under the bus". Frankly you seem unable to comprehend the idea that someone could support neither the Arabs or Israelis, and are desperate to be able to slot opinions into either "peace-loving supporters of the one true democracy of the Middle East" or "anti-Semitic peddlers of hate against the Jews".
One last time - I support NEITHER side and think that BOTH sides engage in unwarranted, unnecessary and inexcusable violence. I also think that trying to understand how the wars go on without understanding the history and causes behind them is ridiculously naive - if you don't think that what happened 60 years ago is important today, then you are never going to have more than a superficial comprehension of a conflict which is little more than the continuation of a struggle begun then.