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Originally Posted by ken0042
You get into a vehicle, turn the key and put it into gear.
I know of people who had multiple suspensions upon suspensions, and not having a license doesn't stop them from driving. That's why I don't think stiffer penalties will do anything.
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Put em in jail for 5 or 10 years and its not a problem. What are we going to do with these people that flout the law like that. I highly doubt counseling or AA is going to make a difference, these people are already unrepentant and don't deserve any kind of mercy.
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Originally Posted by ken0042
In my mind there are two types of drunk drivers; those that always drive drunk, and those that drive drunk due to some lack of planning. The ones who always drive drunk; they are also the ones who show signs of being an alcoholic. They can't have one social drink- they must get obliterated every time they go out.
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To me frankly there is no difference between the two, you have a choice when you drink and then get in the car and turn the key. To me there's no difference in circumstances. Equal punishment for equal crime.
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I know my suggestions I have made will not impact those who are habitual drunk drivers. I'm thinking of getting the guy who is an occasional drunk driver off the road. The bottom line is we want drunk drivers off the road, and judging by the number of people in this thread who have admitted to drunk driving, I would say there are a lot more people who do it than we think.
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A occasional drunk driver by the sounds of it, is a person that has done it more then once, that to me is a habit. I make no difference between the habitual and the occasional, and I think harsh penalties are warranted for people that do it even once. This is a crime of choice, just because your blitzed doesn't mean that it should be an excuse for driving.
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Let's give some options to those guys. I'm not talking about coddling them, but options that will have a positive impact on everybody. Who here has never been frustrated trying to get a cab- especially during a busy time of year? Who here wouldn't like to have the option of being able to go out with your buddies, and know that there is a C-train waiting for you after all is said and done? Or be able to call a car service without it costing you more than your entire evening did?
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Sure that would be great, but to me its not an excuse. If your with a group, then one of them is a designated driver. If you have friends I'm sure they won't mind saving your life or others by picking you up. If you have family in the city its the same thing. Just because a cab or a train isn't available it isn't ok to put others and your own life in jeopardy. Thats like me saying, I'm broke so its ok for me to do a home invasion.
There is no excuse for drunk driving, there's no reason to make that choice. For crimes of choice we need to be harsh on these people. I would even be willing to shorten the sentence if they're given community service in a morgue or a emergency room, and they're forced to meet with the victims family and take the beating that they're so deserving.
Sorry if it seems like I'm exploding on you Ken, its not you, its drinking and driving and some situations that have effected me in the past.