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Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@May 21 2005, 05:18 PM
If Harper came out tommorrow and said "I don't understand how Ontario thinks, they are different from us, and don't makes sense" Would he get the free ride that you are giving Chretien?
Sorry but based on the fact that the Liberal's don't even bother to send thier leaders out here during elections, or do it for one day speaks volumes for me.
They don't need to understand us, or have us involved because the election is over by the time it hits the manitoba border.
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Would that be about equal to Harper's I could care less if Quebec separates speech about 2 years ago? Harper's whole train of thought was that they were different, spoke a different language, wanted to leave because they didn't get there way. Perhaps Harper's outlook toward Quebec was the reason the Tories took zero seats in Quebec. 75 seats in the province, and not a sniff. 107 seats east of Ontario, and the Conservatives get 7.
One thing that you have to remember, is the Conservative Party has had a fair amount of contraversy in Ontario in the past 15 years. Federally, Ontario took the biggest hit under NAFTA, with thousands of Industrial jobs disappearing into the United States, and then eventually Mexico. While Cretian failed to live up to his promise to eliminate the GST, it was Mulroney who instituted it. While the Liberals wasted Billions on Gun Registry, it was Kim Campbell (1993) that started the Gun Control Legistlation. While Ontario's Nuclear plants (Bruce Nuclear and Darlington) were downsized, Mulroney directed millions to his hometown and their new power plant.
Provincially, Mike Harris, as Tory Premier, reduced the income of welfare recipients and single mothers, while lining the pockets of his cronies in the North Bay riding (Northern Development Group). Harris spent 8 years making his friends rich, with contracts for running a private jail, the 407 highway, P2P facilities, and tax breaks for Professional Sports teams (which he denied for weeks), while the middle and lower classes struggled. Harris depleted Public Services, contracting out lab work, meat inspection, produce inspection, etc, with the promise of better service for les money. He ignored warnings and examples from other countries, because he was smarter than the people that had done it before. We now have had to buy out the more expensive contracts of the jail and inspectors.
During the 8 years of hell, we had Walkerton, where private labs and a lack of supervision, once given by Public Servants, led to 7 deaths, and 2000 other cases of E-coli poisoning. Ontario suffered through SARS, where again the lack of public labs and a decimated healthcare system aided in 33 deaths, and a widespread epidemic (costing the city and province hundreds of millions in Tourism). We then faced another water issue in Southwestern Ontario, when a factory accidently leaked toxic chemicals into a nearby river, and the private lab admitted they hadn't tested for those chemicals, because 'we have a budget, and can only test for so much.' In 2002, the Ontario Tory Government was warned that their cutting of 90% of the meat inspectors was putting the province in danger, and a specific company was cited. In 2003, that company, in Aylmer, Ontario, was found to be processing tainted meat.
On September 6, 1995, Native Protester Dudley George was killed at Ipperwash. Premier Harris adamantly denied any knowledge of the incidents that led up to the clash between the OPP and the Natives. During the ongoing inquiry into the incident, taped conversations have been introduced that contradict Harris' claim. The Native Affairs Minister contacted the OPP, and informed them that he had spoken with Harris, and they (the Tories) were too excited about getting things done, calling them "barrel-suckers".
Yes, some Liberals siphoned money to their buddies, to keep power and get their way, it isn't the first time it has happened. Expectations now, are that the East will vote Conservative to teach the Liberals a lesson, but the Conservatives aren't trusted either. The Conservatives hurt their own cause last time, with in-fighting, and a questionable leader, and were a fairly new entity after partnering up with the Reform. The West will vote Conservative because they feel that they will do more for them, and represent them better. I will vote for Steckle, my current MP, because he is willing to vote against party lines,,, and represent his riding.