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Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@May 22 2005, 10:41 AM
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@May 22 2005, 10:22 AM
Shall we start this up again Captain?
Or you could be justified with those comments because of their disparagment against Italians by maintaining they're all mafia types.# Look that's Italians they've got preconceived ideas about and now "Japs" too.
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Sorry ot say this but pull your head out of your ass. No one said that all Italians were mafia types... well the Liberals went on a tear about how that was what the CPC stood for, but you know with nothign to back that up. Hell if the Liberals were that concerned about the way in which the Italian community was being represented would they not go to the source, and you know try and stop the Sopranos from being shown in Canada.... no. Actually according to the CRTC and the cabinet member responsible there was nothing of the sort that could be seen on the show.... well until the CPC has a member which was holding a poster which compared the Liberals to a criminal organization. N one was saying that all Liberals were Italian, or that all Italians were Liberals, or that all Liberals were members of the Italian mafia, or that all italians were criminals. It is a huge reach to come to that conclusion, and one which is not only unsubstantiated, but it is actually foolish. If it was a Russian mafia that the Liberals faces photoshopped in, would that mean that the conservatives hate all Russians, and if they hate Russians do they then support the Chechians, or that all Russians used to be run under a communist state, and China is a communist state, so that means that all CPC party members hate the Chinese.
He shouldn't have said Japs, no one is disagreeing with that. He appologized, and admitted his mistake, something the Liberal party has been unwilling to do for the past decade, well where would they find the time, they have to continually insult and slander anyone who is the least bit right of center. A complete double standard exists, and one that I am getting sick and tired of.
But then again who am I do say anything, I support the CPC, so I guess I am a biggoted slack jawed yokel.
Claeren I can guarentee you that if you look into each party you will find that there are individuals who put their foots in their mouth. Hell Jean Chretian was invovled in pepper-spraying peacefull protesters and also stangleing them. Then using quotes from a provincial politican to make your case (the Alberta MLA) hell why don't we just say that all Liberal drink and drive, because if you look at the Liberal Party of BC.
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No you get your head out of your ass. They still picked people who either were or looked like italians for a picture of mafia types. That suggests they can throw someone like that in an add, photoshopped or not and perpetuate a stereotype.
To me that shows idiocy from a party that has perception problems.
Further I couldn't care less about brandishing the KKK. I don't see how that's offensive unless you're a part of that org, or you're using it out of context. Which I don't think they were. I'm prepared to admit it was over the top and they could be wiser in their reproachment in that case but that's it.
Further did you not see Martin on TV personally appologising!! and promising to replace any money proven taken??? You may not buy his words or believe the sentiment but he made an unscheduled tv spot to specifically appologies and explain his position. Maybe you didn't see it you know, your head being so far up your own rectum and all

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holy, I don't even know how to respond to that, but it gives me a clear view of how you think.
Let see if I have this straight.
Conservatives lampoon a Television show poster by placing Liberal heads on characters bodies and in your mind its a crime against humanity.
Yet its ok in your mind to compare the conservatives to a group that murdered blacks, supressed civil rights, burned down churches because in your perception it accurate, and shouldn't be insulting unless your part of the organization. Wow why don't you just come out and say that you think anyone that votes for the Conservatives is a racist, and "should" join the KKK because we think that way.
Wow, unreal, I can see that there's no use even looking at your posts anymore.
And your willing to buy Martins face value apology based on what, his merits. And then you go onto a lecture about us not believeing him because we have our heads up our ass. He must have done something mighty powerful to gain your faith.
But wow on your whole post, now I've seen it all except for a man eating his own head.