[Rerun]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Bunk, Harper went to the senate hat in hand during his first term to put forward ideas on reforming the senate, and who voted it down? The Liberals who had been placed there by the Liberal party because they don't want to see their plum positions put up for election.

If we do god forbid get the conservatives falling at the budget and we get a coalition by the Liberals, then there's no checks and balances in place as the Senate becomes a rubber stamp organization. For the Conservatives however, the Liberal dominated senate has become a blocking point for the opposition, see the Crime Bill as an example.

The Senate right now, doesn't serve the Canadian people, it serves the Liberal party of Canada.

Its impossible at this point for Harper to keep that promise, he tried to, but it can't be done until there's a more equal balance of senators.

If your going to hand out seats to this thing, then they should designate Liberal seats, conservative seats and NDP seats that make it a fairly even distribution.

Personally I would rather that there was no senate in this current form.

True. If we can't reform it, abolish it.