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Old 05-19-2005, 02:26 PM   #159
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank@May 19 2005, 08:12 PM
I hate people who milk the system, of which there are many. This does not make me greedy/ignorant/dumb all things that were said/implied about me afterwards.
Well I'd say that suggesting that most people on welfare are free loading alcoholics who've chosen to "milk the system" is pretty ignorant but we've already agreed to disagree on that point. You obviously aren't interested in milking the system and neither are most well adjusted, mentally and emotionally stable people who have the tools to make something better of themselves. I'd say to want to make a better life for yourself is a pretty normal thing. Desire and a certain amount of ambition seem to be basic traits in humans.

If you believe that then you have to wonder why these people are on welfare. Perhaps it's because they aren't normal and well adjusted, perhaps they aren't mentally or emotionally stable. Perhaps they need some help to make something better of themselves. Perhaps they are trapped in an addiction and now have a problem getting out. And even if most people on welfare were alcoholics does that mean they are worthless human beings? Should we write them off? Maybe we should just execute them now and save ourselves the trouble? (don't worry, I know you weren't suggesting that by any stretch)

You know there's a good chance we stand a lot closer on this than it would appear. It seems like you believe that handing them money is not the way to go. I believe that as well. If someone is alcoholic then giving them money won't cure the addiction. Our welfare system is dysfunctional and has problems. I guess what we disagree on is the approach. You see it's not working and earlier in this thread you suggested we take it away as the solution. Probably a more ideal solution would be to help these people with whatever unique problem they have that is preventing them from bettering their lives. We need to help the drug and alcohol addicts to break the addiction and change their outlook.

But it's easier said then done. Welfare reform is certainly needed. But I don't think just taking it away is a good idea.
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