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Old 12-04-2008, 05:04 PM   #2137
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Originally Posted by llama64 View Post
This is where I maintain that people aren't understanding how our government works.

Every single MP is elected. You do not vote for your Prime Minister. You vote for your MP. Those words next to "Conservative Party" are the MP's name... We do not, should not and never ever will vote specifically for a party. If you personally vote this way, that doesn't change the mechanics of the system and you shouldn't be shocked when it behaves differently then you thought it would.

If the Liberals and the NDP unite into a single party, that's a perfectly fair and democratic option. If that uniting leads to a house majority, that's still democratic, as every seat represents a defined group of Canadians.

How is this so hard for people to understand? This was taught in High School for crying out loud. If you want to vote directly for your executive, become an American citizen.

All Harper (and the GG) have done is delay action. Honestly, does anyone believe the Liberals and NDP are going to act in anything resembling a concilliative fashion? No... they will simply topple the government in January and force the GG to make a descision then. And the amount of anti-Bloc crap coming out of the Conservatives for the past week has done nothing to help sway their opinion of the whole mess.

Remember, the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc have to play nice with eachother for them to even hold onto power. If they fail, we're back at yet another election, more weeks of non-government during a turbulent period, and more wasted money.

Harper screwed up big time. If Conservatives are angry, they should be calling for his head.
Wow, talk about talking down to people.
I live in Calgary SW, does that mean I get to become an American citizen?
Harper has delayed action, yes, and that's a great thing because the proof will be in the pudding how much the other parties REALLY want to act in the best interests for the country as they propose they are with the coalition, in working with the conservaitves to strategize on the econonmy. Let be honest, when Obama starts filtering money around, the Canadian government will follow closely with that plan, and really, all 3 parties really should be in fairly close agreement to what is to be done, and where money is to be put, based on that.

Of course, there will be disagreements based on party ideologies, the NDP will want money ofr union workers, the Bloc anyone emplyed in Quebec etc etc

But other then some details here and there, the basic framework for a budget should have enough common sense, practical ideas, shared among parties as showing that it helps the country, and that voting it down will be strictly stubborn partisan politics. In that case we go to the polls.

Of course, the Conservatives have to play fair too, that said, by delaying Parliment by 6 weeks instead of asking for an election, its giving the other parties (reported not to really be able to afford an election) a chance to regroup and discuss and analyze with cooler heads. And, with the Liberal leadership in such turmoil, there could be a (welcome) change with a person more reasonable and recognizing the dangers that jumping into bed with the socialists and seperatists would mean for the Liberal party for years to come.
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