05-13-2005, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Bend it like Bourgeois+May 13 2005, 05:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bend it like Bourgeois @ May 13 2005, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by Mike F@May 13 2005, 04:54 PM
Here's how things would work in your world: A Liberal politician, L, is approached by person X and offered a deal whereby if he directs government funding to X's company, X will then kickback some of that money to L. L thinks to himself "Gee, the sponsorship scandal has shown me that there's a good chance that an audit will catch this, I'll be publically exposed as corrupt, I'll never be able to hold pubic office again and I'll possibly be charged with civil &/or criminal offenses, ruining my life... but hey other Liberals will still be able to get elected so yeah let's go for it!"
That's how you think things work, but I'm the gullible fool right?
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In denial, not gullible.
The whole rest of the world works on the principle that the organization and people at the top bear responsibility for the consequences of those under them. Whether they actively participate or not.
Exxon didn't get to fire the captain and walk away from a ship piled into the rocks.
Arthur Anderson had to re-invent itself, not just fire a couple people and go on it's merry way over Enron.
Why would the world work differently for the Liberals than anyone else?[/b]
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Last time I checked, Chretien and his crew were gone.
If those who were responsible for Enron had left the company and passed it on to new control before the scandal broke would you demand the head of the new CEO, CFO etc., who had nothing to do with the corruption, just because they were in charge at the time when the shinguard hit the fan?
Is that how the whole rest of the world works?
<!--QuoteBegin-Bend it like Bourgeois@May 13 2005, 05:43 PM
Think bigger. The issue isn't the Liberal who's going to line his pockets. There will always be shady types in any party. Your friend L is going to be there no matter what. The issue is will all the people around him be more interested in stopping him and coming clean, or joining in and covering their own ass.[/quote]
No, this is about whether the current Liberals will line their pockets (i.e. will continue to act in a corrupt manner). There may still be people of questionable moral character in the party, as there are in all parties, and the argument that the pro-Conservative camp are relying on is that these individuals won't reform there ways unless the government is voted out of office. That's just wrong and relies of a flawed understanding of human motivation as I outlined in my last post.
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