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Old 11-21-2008, 12:38 AM   #89
RougeUnderoos
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And yet everything else goes on.

If you see death as 'an end', then you cannot believe in cycles and can't throw that back in my face.
I'm not throwing anything back in your face. This kid is dead. Okay, something else begins. That's nice. What is it? What has begun?

Don't muddy it up by being vague.


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As far as 'teenagers don't rationally kill themselves on the internet in our culture'? Wow, where to begin?

Well I guess, since the internet has been around for SOOOO LONG, I'm sure we have a bunch of data to show what is predictable emotional behavior when related to the internet.
I don't need much data to tell me that a teenager taking a bunch of pills in the hopes of killing himself is acting rationally. Of course he's not. He's sick and his disease is making him act irrationally.


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Lastly, as far as 'wise philosophies', I would recommend anything that doesn't vilify death. Most modern religions, and therefore modern mindsets do. Without even knowing it.
Okay, which wise philosophy?

I don't have a religion.

I'm not really one to "villify death" as a general rule. I'm pretty sour on the idea of teenagers killing themselves for just about any reason though. I don't know if I'm particularly interested in a philosophy that would change my mind on that subject, but I'll give it a whirl.

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'Death is something to be postponed to the very limits of human endurance and happiness.'

What? Why? Even if nothing happens after, why make yourself unhappy to prolong the inevitable? You're only making more unhappiness.

And if there is a transition, why delay it for suffering?

For all the scientific and logical people on this board, they seem to have missed this big one.
Missed what "big one"? Who here has ever said "death is something to be postoponed to the very limits of human endurance and happiness"?

I don't believe that. I also don't believe that what this kid did to himself is part of the natural order of things. It could have been prevented, someone could have helped him out, and he could have live 80 more years as a good human being.
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