[CaptainCrunch]

Look Ag, I know where your coming from on the whole alternative thing, but if Kyoto is mainly there to work the nations that already have some kind of pollution standards in place, while developing nations without any are getting an easy hand then its really not going to work.

The only way that its going to work if the major pollutors like India, china, Pakistan and the Russian Republics are measured up to the same standards as the rest.

It also dosen't work if you can't get the entire planet on board.

Bingo is right, the only way that any environmental cleanup is going to take place is if the first world countries use thier money internally to create a higher standard before we even start to preach to the idias, etc.

Canada has enough internal pollution problems, without taking money that could be spend cleaning that up and sending it to a company that is just going to build more factories to take away the jobs and products from the nations that are cleaning up thier act.

Unfortunately at this time I just can't see a way to do a gobal cleanup. But if Canada and the U.S. and others can create thier own better environments then they can go to these other nations and assist them without killing thier economies in the process.

And like some of the others I really bristle when somebody says to me that because i don't support Kyoto, I must not support environmental cleanup.

I'm all for it, but everyone has to be onboard, and everyone has to live to the same standards.

I'm all for a global environmental agency that takes money into a common pool and spends it where its needed, the money shouldn't go into the hands of individual governments.