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Originally posted by Snakeeye@May 9 2005, 04:42 PM
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@May 9 2005, 02:39 PM
One of the issues that's frequently mentioned as being part of the CPC "hidden agenda" is that they want to ban abortion.
Now, we all know the official party platform says that they will not introduce legislation to ban abortion.# But we also know that many prominent members of the Conservative Party are long-time outspoken pro-lifers.# Couple this with the fact that the CPC wants to allow many free-votes, what's stopping a Conservative Party MP from introducting a private member's bill to ban abortion?# In fact, last June Stephen Harper said that he would allow just that.
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePr.../04/485055.html
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Early in the federal election campaign, Harper said a government led by him wouldn't table legislation on the divisive abortion issue. But he hadn't commented about how a private member's bill on the issue would be handled if he forms a government after June 28.
Yesterday, he made it clear: "Absolutely . . . I would generally continue the practice of allowing free votes on all private member's legislation," he said on the tarmac of Hamilton's airport.
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Why many of us fear the so-called "hidden agenda" isn't because of what's in the CPC policy document, but rather because of the (quite clear) views on many issues by numerous Conservative MPs and Harper's apparent willingness to allow free votes on private member's bills about those issues.
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"I would generally continue...."
Simply put, I guarantee that you could not find 154 Conservative MP's (or hopefuls) who would vote in favour of outlawing abortions.
I would guarantee you couldnt find 50.
I also guarantee you would find Liberals who would support outlawing abortions.
Simply put, there is 0 chance that the Conservatives introduce a motion to ban abortions as official party platform, and there is only a marginally higher chance that an individual MP would introduce it as a private members bill, and expect it to even reach the floor for a vote, let alone be in any danger of passing.
The problem here is that you are taking a very small, extreme minority of the party and passing it off as being representative of the entire party. This is something Canada's liberal media has proven very adept at, and people - especially out east - eat it up.
And yet, if I were to brand the Liberals a racist organization based on the comments of Fry and Volpe, I'd get trashed for overgeneralizing.
Canada is a very hypocritical nation.
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Snakeeye:
Have a look @ this page before you guarantee that 50 Conservative MPs wouldn't vote for a total abortion ban.
http://www.straightgoods.ca/Election...ews.cfm?Ref=15
Now I do have to agree that it would be greatly suprising if 154 Conservative MPs would, and it is also true that some Liberals are very anti abirtion. But generally I do think that it can be said that as a group the Conservative causus is more anti abortion and that the Liberal causus is more pro abortion. [/b][/quote]
And where did the Canadian labor Congress come up with those statistics? Thin air?
I doubt you'll find any more Conservatives willing to change the abortion laws than you'll find Liberals interested in changing the laws. That article is a typical example of organizations with an agenda spreading misinformation and lies.