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Old 11-11-2008, 03:36 PM   #475
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you're clearly not reading the whole thread.

The "wage" numbers you quote are the hourly dollar wage they recieve, the numbers that I posted was their compensation including pensions/medical benefits/vacation/holdiays.

We've already discussed and agreed their wage isn't the problem, it's the benefits that are absurd.

Furthermore the numbers we've been discussing have come from the UAW rather then the CAW, with universal health care in Canada it is unlikely the numbers are as high.
Sure I read the thread. and thanks for being condescending. I also saw people ask about those amounts and you confirm them.

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Are those the wage figures for the union workers for each company?
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Those numbers are for UAW employees and include hourly wages and benefits.
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Wow.

So even though the there was a determination later on that it was more of a management issue than an union/labour issue, this is still information that is misleading. The numbers I posted ARE the FORD USA numbers. And while the Canadian contracts are different, it would take a heck of a health plan to double that amount. As far as my friends, they have had over 2 months laid off this year. There are lots of issues with the unions. More than enough that they are definitely not helping the issues.

And getting back to GM - the 2008 Chevy Cobalt SS sounds like it is quite the performer. http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4254059.html
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