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Originally Posted by Claeren
2) No one is sweeping floors for $35/hr ($70/hr in your example) - that is anti-union propaganda and you sound silly just repeating it. Unions might be a bad thing, fair enough, but keep to facts. If you are going to state their wage as costs-all-in then do it for ALL employees not just union big3 guys and if you are going to assume that floor sweepers get the average big3 wage then you also need to assume that the guy cleaning up a new well site is also getting the average wage (which ironically they are more likely to be doing IMO).
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Thats interesting because no where in my example did i say anything about floor sweepers. I'm confused as how you putting words in my mouth makes me look silly.
Oil workers get paid as much as they do because of 4 reasons, that kind of work doesn't appeal to alot of people regardless of wage. It is extremely physically demanding, you're working in the middle of bum**** no where, exposed to the elements and finally the hours are worse then shift work, not at all comparable to working on the assembly line.
These numbers come from Forbes, in terms of total compensation, feel free to dispute them. I cannot vouch for their accuracy other then the source they came from.
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Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year)
GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year)
Chrysler: $75.86 ($151,720 per year)
Toyota, Honda, Nissan (in U.S.): $48.00 ($96,000 per year)
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Bottem line, union workers at the American autoworkers are overpaid and an example of how unions can be detrimental in todays society. If the American auto companies want to be viable long term they need to bring their labour costs inline with their competitors.