[Claeren]

I am always late for things, but always 1min-10min late, not hours.

If I am going to be more than 3min late I send a text (or call) and if I am more than 5min late I am super super apologetic.

I would never expect someone to wait more than 10min for me and I would never wait more than 20min for someone else if I had not heard from them.

That is the key though to me. If someone cant bother to let you know they will be (or are) late you do NOT have to wait. IF they can't be bothered to carry an operating cell phone they are also obliged to not be late for things and make people wait.


Family gets some leeway but I would not feel guilty if I had to go out interim to them arriving and it inconvenienced them. I wouldn't go out of my way to do so though either.



Waiting an HOUR+(!) for someone without any notice would be enough to end a friendship IMO. A one time thing with a valid excuse and/or a massive and meaningful apology would be an exception of course.... the first time.




As an aside to that, there are two types of people in the world -- those who tend to be early (if only a minute) and those who tend to be late (if only a minute). I find there are a host of other characteristics that go along with either type of person and I don't think you can get toooo hung up on someone always being a bit late because I am sure that (1) there are other parts of their personalty that you likely need in your very ordered life and/or (2) I am sure there are drawbacks to your personality that are caused by the same characteristics that allow you to be early/on time for things.




Claeren.