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Originally Posted by transplant99

Of course one set of kids win...thats why its called a NC game. WHat isnt done though...is to allow ALL deserving teams a crack at it. You keep saying I focus too much on the title....well why in the hell even have one if its not important? I will tell you why....its makes the NCAA gobs and gobs of MONEY. Thats why a fair system should be implemented to decide who plays. Not sure why you have such a hard time with that.

but 'deserving' is subjective. You just assume the right answer to subjective. To me, losing to OSU makes you undeserving. That's the thing playoff people don't get. What they are doing by definition is loosening what deserving means. Can't argue that right? So what's fair about a team running through the Big XII or SEC then put on equal footing with a USC team that cant beat the beavers? Your definition of deserving is no better than any one else's.

Originally Posted by transplant99

As I have stated....I dont believe USC deserves a shot to this pouint in the season. Why do you insist on ignoring that?

Because you go back and forth on that. If you say they don't deserve a shot then fine. Done. USC is out of the picture. So let's not hear the whining about how USC is screwed out the polls then.

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Really? Then why the 1000 word disertation about it?

Because I think playoff people have no idea what a playoff would do to the game. It would make 3 or some very small number of playoff games very important, but the hundreds before it, much less important. I'm ok with no BCS and the old bowl structure, or the current BCS as a compromise to those who want a 1 vs 2 game every year. Anything more to focus on a NC will hurt the game.

Originally Posted by transplant99

Are you serious? Auburn NEVER EVEN GOT A SHOT. With a playoff system...they would have. What part of that are you unable to grasp?

I'm fully aware how that turned out, it would have been nice that year to have a 3 team playoff. But 8 teams every year is no better and in fact much worse. Again because USC is put on the same footing as someone who say walked through the SEC ... and it's conference championship, the same week that USC battles the mighty bruins.

Originally Posted by transplant99

No...you dont kill off ANY bowls. You incorporate them INTO the playoffs as I have given an example of above. Again...what part of this is over your head? And no it most certainly does NOT devalue the regular season no matter how many times you wanna yell that it does. You still have to win your conference or be one of the 2 at large teams based on your performance. God I wish you would stop with that stuff. You still have to be VERY good to get into the post season dance....much like every other organized sport in the entire world.

Ohhh, good. And I thought this was just a 8 team playoff. Can you help me understand how you will incorporate all 26 bowls game to be relevant to a NC picture. If you need, embed a excel diagram or something because this will be fun to explain I'm sure.

Your opinion here is my poster child for the general public not knowing what they want. By definition the more teams that get to play for a NC at the end of the year, the less important the games are. That USC game in Corvallis would mean absolutely nothing in your structure. And so would dozens of other games. That is so simple a 10 year old can get that. THE MORE TEAMS CHALLENGING FOR A NC AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE LESS IMPORTANT THE REGULAR SEASON IS.

Originally Posted by transplant99

How was Congress pandering for votes...they opened up this investigation in 2005. And what "source" are you talking about?



Congress has a committee that is an oversight on ALL sports...so its much much bigger than this "pandering" you keep referring too.

Here is an article about it...i suggest you read it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2245440

If congress thinks there is a steriods problem, I care, if they prefer a playoff, I don't care. That's not their job, they should be worried about things like a garbage economy or how uneducated its population is becomming.

Originally Posted by transplant99

So everyone is just too stupid to understand it. Got it. I guess I must fall into the "dumb zone" as well then since i disagree with you and those mighty commisioners.

No. You know there isn't really a single time you don't take a comment out of context and then make it into something else. Just because the general public thinks something it doesn't make it true. And the publics confidence that they are right doesn't mean much that is what I said. NCAA is extremely successful, and the public didn't build it, the NCAA did, so I think I'm gonna cut the NCAA a little slack on how to build a league.

Originally Posted by transplant99

Ummm...because they are different sports maybe? Just a shot in the dark there. Thats like asking why doesnt the Stanley Cup garner as many viewers as the Super Bowl. Strange comparison.

Have you ever watched a NFL preseason game that didn't include your packers? It's not that interesting. Fans every year scream in pain about the preseason moreso than any other sport, because football games that don't mean anything are terrible. The main reason football became the most popular sport is because of how important games are. NFL Films main objective in life is to highlight that, the networks know how to make the intensity of the fans part of the game. It's not the sport itself, it's the environment. Watch how much emphasis football coverage will focus on the intensity that the fans add to the environment.

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Last years NCCAA Bball championship game...Kansas' 75-68 overtime win over Memphis on CBS drew a fast national rating of 12.1 and a 20 share

IIRC the football game garnered a 14.2 for the same thing.

huge difference? You tell me./quote]

That's great ... now, what about the other 99.999% of the games? You go compare NCAA Bball regular season ratings for nationally televised games and compare that to NCAA Football national games and get back to me k? That is my point. You are just focusing on one game ... or a very small sample of games. The NCAA is focussing on all of their games.

The last thing you thought was to compare an entire season ... just went for the one game.

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yup...you are so correct and superior. I bow to your greatness. in now way is the NCAA part of "large public interest".

Public sentiment is what drives the whole NCAA by the way...you still fail to address that.

Also...why is NCAA football the single solitary sporting entity that doesnt require a playoff system? If it is SO superior to anything else....i would think those "smart guys" in other sports would be falling all over themselves to establish such a brilliant system.

Sorry I just think your view is simple. When you say how can USC lose a spot in the ranking after winning that is simple and naive. That conclusion requires no depth. To go a bit beyond that and think about things like the evolving merit of SOS based on how teams they have already played are preforming in the future is not as simple, but no less important. Just a few years ago polls didn't get that, but are slowing evolving. So to be honest, it's not that I really think what I know is superior as much as I think your views are simple and not well thought out ... my best guess is because of faith for your Trojans ... don't know that for sure, but it's my guess.

As for your question at the end. I think 2 things, one, you tell me. No playoff still the most popular. Facts are facts, the smart guys manufactured the most popular sporting league on the continent, I've tried explaining to you many time why I think that is but you don't listen.

The other is that to me the NCAA has the best playoff structure there is. It's just that most people view it as a regular season based on how other leagues work. Games in September can mean almost as much as a game in a march madness tourneyment. And the following week there will be some more. Right from the top the intensity, importance and desparation is high, that's interesting.