[CaptainCrunch]

In my mind, Kyoto won't do much to save the environment unless it also enforces the developing nations like India and China for example that have no Environmental protection at all.

All industrialized nations have to see a value in it and sign onto it. Kyoto is useless if the U.S. isn't there, or the Russians aren't there for example.

I'm fine with the theory that humanity is responsible for a lot of the ecological damage on the planet, but the issue is how much of the damage is cause by man, and how much is caused by the life cycle of the planet? Thats where the debate lies.

And to call people that aren't willing to get on board Kyoto as greedy is kinda silly, just like writing off UofC research because we're sitting in the middle of the Oil belt, that would be like me writing off the converse research because they have tree's in thier backyard.