[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by photon

You misrepresent atheists here. A weak atheist is wide open to the possibility but just says there isn't any reason to think there's a God, and even the strongest atheist probably wouldn't deny the possibility if you propose a sufficiently abstract enough definition of God. As I said before the definition of God in play makes a difference.

I'm just going by what I remember growing up in an atheist home. My definition of god was pretty basic. A man in the sky watching and judging us and sending us to hell or heaven depending on what we did or believed. He was also handy for making wishes if you were weak minded and couldn't stand on your own two feet.
Since than my concepts have changed to the point that any definition is changing or lacking, it can only be experienced. It's like my experience of peace is changing so my definition changes.



Even this definition of agnostic is incomplete.. a strong agnostic wouldn't just say I don't know god, they'd say I don't know god and no one else does because the question of god is unknowable. A weak agnostic would say I don't know god but someone else might.

Picky picky I know, but definitions are important.

Wow, you strong agnostic is almost as hardened as my atheist. I get the difference though.
Oh yeah, I agree definitions are important and I find it frustrating when I say I believe in god, and get lumped in with the religious, but it doesn't have much to do with the accepted Christian model.