[alltherage]

Originally Posted by photon

I didn't see Lithium bitching about Christians spreading the word, so to call it hypocritical doesn't make any sense. Wait until someone actually does something before calling them out for it.

I said people "like" Lithium.

And most people who would actively try to un-convert people have reasons to do so, they probably wouldn't agree that religion is constructive and have well thought out reasons for thinking so. You may agree or disagree with their reasons, but you can't disagree that those reasons exist.

I'd have to know what their reasons are, but on this board, it seems to be mostly a smug superiority complex that relies on tangibility for legitimacy.

Correlation does not equal causation. Christianity was a huge component of society the last 2000 years, I'd be shocked if Christianity wasn't at the roots of most of the countries founded while Christianity was very strong.

Correlation does not equal causation, too, but you would have to be ignorant not to at least consider the correlation if not debunking it.

And that's just an appeal to consequence fallacy; just because a Christian worldview results in more developed countries (I don't think that's true but just making a point), doesn't mean there's any truth to it.

I never said there needed to be truth to it in order to be constructive. Parents tell their kids they have to bee good fot Santa to give them gifts. Is that such a bad thing?

Plus studies show that there's an inverse correlation with the religiosity of a country and the quality of life in that country; the more religious a country things like teen pregnancy and life expectancy and such get worse, not better.

I'll believe that when I see it.

Why does one have to be a believer to grasp a concept? I don't believe in a flat earth but I can understand the concept.

I didn't say you had to be a beleiver, i actually said some people do not, and some people chose not to.

Most of the world doesn't believe in the Christian God, but those places that don't aren't a "chaotic smorg of selfish culture based on dog-eat-dog mentalities that ultimately doom themselves".

I agree, but my statement wasn't meant to be a blanket across all countries and cultures, it was an observation based on my previous correlation.