[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Thor

Its impressive how you have in a few words completely shown your utter lack of understanding.

Did Communism kill in the name of Atheism? No. Did communism have a fever pitch patriotism and cult of personality, yes.

So you acknowledge that all wars and bloodshed are not caused by religion. Well good. That's a start.

Originally Posted by Thor

More importantly, do you honestly think that lack of belief in a god was the reason people assimilated and followed the patriotic fervor of their regime?

I believe that communists recognized the religions of their country as a challenge to absolute power over the people. That is why they all embraced atheism and pushed it on the people through educational retraining and sever oppression of people of faith.

Originally Posted by Thor

You could say, Canada is formed on non belief in bridge trolls, the lack of bridge collapses and the fact we have such a successful society shows exactly how valuable these beliefs are.

Non belief is not a psychological reason to agree to mass murder, not a reason to irrationally destroy a religious race based on omg 'religion'....

Canada was formed under Christian principles. There was free expression of religion in all aspects of private and public life. Fortunately its religion wasn't hijacked by some power hungry dictator and morphed into an excuse for bloody conquest.

Originally Posted by Thor

People all the time argue Hitler was an Atheist, which with any study shows he would be very unlikely to be. However IF he was, why would he destroy a religious group like the Jews which were hated by christians/catholics/muslims... To the point that Adolph had friends in the Vatican!

The idea that a blond hair blued eye white man is the superior race and by nature would rise to the top is not an opinion Hitler came to all by himself. Darwin introduced the question by writing the book titled "The origin of species and race". His theory was that animals as well as humans evolved from lower forms. Hitler seen blacks as well as Poles and Jews as inferior races who were holding back human's natural progression. He treated these groups as less than human because he seen them as below his race on the evolutionary scale. His involvement with the Catholic church was a political move on both sides. Hitler made nice nice because he wanted the Italians fighting for him and the Catholic church wanted the retention of the power they still had and a place in the new world order. Knowing Hitler's beliefs the Italians would have seen the ovens shortly after Hitler was through using them.

Originally Posted by Thor

But its cute to pretend Atheism, or 'lack of worship in magical being(s)" somehow allows genocide or favors violent destruction of religious groups or people because of 'lack of morals.'

I'm only observing the track record of atheistic nations. You don't seem to have a problem at looking at the track records of Christian nations with venom. The Soviet Union, China, and Cambodia all possessed strong moral principles that they were both willing to kill and die for. As a Christian I reject their morality. It isn't compatible with my beliefs. Hitler acted on his beliefs as well. The parts of the Catholic church which made political allegiance with Hitler were compromising their own morality for political gain. Other Catholics risked their lives to be true to their moral sensibilities.

I don't think much of your moral position on abortion. You believe that a human child is less than human if he or she happens to be located within their mothers body. That belief has led to more bloodshed than all the wars of the twentieth century combined. Still I acknowledge it is your moral belief even if the results are detestable.

Originally Posted by Thor

I'm assuming you haven't read many books or have any clue, so I'll help you. Morals are not derived from the bible. Morals are not derived from religion.

Morals are derived by our own world view of things which includes perceptions we receive through the religious books I read and the garbage you read. Collective morality is derived by collective experience and dialogue. That is why Atheists are always trying to silence Christian public expression.

Originally Posted by Thor

Morals are a part of evolution and the changing moral zeitgeist that we all share.

We don't share much in regards to morality. My hope is when the evolution doesn't come like you anticipate that atheist's don't try to help it along like Hitler and those communist nations did.

Originally Posted by Thor

But thank you for bringing for the most easily and laughably destroyed arguments put forth by ignorant religious zealots like yourself. A challenge would be nice next time.

If you want a challenge try rising above your deep seated hatred and overwhelming pride.