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Old 05-01-2005, 03:17 PM   #57
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Originally posted by Thunderball+May 1 2005, 09:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thunderball @ May 1 2005, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Hakan@May 1 2005, 02:59 PM
Wake up people.# The Americans would like 'your' oil but you NEED to sell your oil.# Does anyone else not understand this?# You are far better to go into trade negotiations with Canada's bargaining position than with Alberta's position.# Quit being so pompas about Alberta.# It has oil, that's it.# The Americans are NOT going to stick anything to Paul Martin or to Canada over Alberta.# Canada's relationship is far more important strategically to the US then Alberta's oil.
Yes... because Oil is so worthless its SOOO hard to sell cause no one needs it

Wake up yourself!

Oil is the most important commodity Canada provides the US. So, yeah... they don't want it... they'd rather buy automobiles from Ontario... oh! wait! what are they gonna fuel them with!?! yeah.... Or for a non-Alberta-centic example, they're gonna choose Canada over Quebec, cause that hydro electricity is so useless to the Eastern Seaboard.

The Americans are gonna look out for their best interests, which is optimum relations with all their neighbors... they are not gonna look the other way on us. I thought we clearly stated many times that if Alberta separates, its VERY likely that Quebec and some other provinces left too, so Canada is not "all powerful". Our strategic relationship with the States is very strained right now, and to get strong allies, I think the US would marginalize Canada, should they not tow the line too.

We'd all like Canada to work, I think we've all said so in this thread, but it doesn't work as is, and if the Liberals win again, its very likely the beginning of the end. No one is gonna reform the system here to make it work. Once one province leaves, thats it, game over. [/b][/quote]
You completely read my thoughts on that last post by Haken. The U.S. needs our oil more than it needs Ontario's cars. It needs Quebec's eletricity more than it needs Ontario's technology.

The U.S. needs resources more then it needs finished goods, and it would be willing to pay money to get it. They wouldn't expect it for free.

Besides it shows shortsighted ness to believe that Alberta only has Oil. Oil is a big basis for our economy, but as its been pointed out, Alberta has spent a lot of money to diversify its base so we're not dependant on it.

countries that have a need for wheat will buy it from us if we provide favorable terms, and any money that we lose on the selling price will be made up for the fact that we're not sending money to Ottawa.

And I love that fact that somebody is telling Albertan's not to be so pompous, . We're just tired of being marginalized and molested by a centralized government, that can't even be bothered to listen to us (IE last election campaign Paul Martin dosen't even campaign in Alberta).

And why is Canada's relationship with the states strategically important anymore?
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