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Old 05-01-2005, 11:23 AM   #14
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Originally posted by MarchHare@May 1 2005, 11:16 AM
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If its a federal government then it has to take into account Western and Alberta concerns and not completely put Ontario and Quebec's concerns over top of our needs. Otherwise you might as well just call Canada a Ontario dominated government.

And while elections may be based stupididly on rep by pop, you can't base running the country on that.
If representation by population is such a stupid idea, how would you do it?

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Thats the problem, its never going to happen as we can see now. the Liberal's have never even tried rapproachment with the Conservatives, instead taking the opening pop shots at the Conservatives in the event for the election.
If you weren't so blinded by your seething hatred of all things Liberal, you would have seen that the budget was written in such a manner to get the CPC's support (corporate tax cuts, etc.). It was only after Harper said he was going to try to bring the government down anyway that the Liberals changed it to try to get the NDP to help pass it.

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press - will you try to work with the conservatives over the possibility of a vote of non confident

Liberals - Those evil conservative bas**rds are trying to privatize health care while carting homosexuals off to consentration camps.
Please.

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Also the Liberals were totally in favor of opening our wallets to appease the wack jobs in the NDP. Trading tax cuts for more stupid and un neccesary spending in order to keep thier grip on power.
See my point above. That only resulted because Harper was so desperate to gain power himself, and the original Conservative-friendly budget fell by the wayside once Harper said he wasn't going to support it afterall.
The Liberals gave lipservice to the CPC in that budget, and Harper was still willing to support it. Now, add in gay marriage, day care (boondoggle in the making), sponsorship scandal, alliance with the NDP and tell me how any opposition leader in their right mind wouldn't want to take them down?

Point is, if the Liberals wanted to ally with the CPC, they would have never gone forward with attempting same sex marriage, they would have added the Conservative amendments to the budget and gone hat in hand to them to stay in power. Not go begging the NDP for inadequate help.

As for rep by pop, its okay for one level of government. But you need an equal Senate where Ontario can't force the rest to do what they want. Yes, Ontario is the largest province, and the province with the highest population, but they are not the majority of Canadians. An American style Senate would go very far here in Canada, cause suddenly Ontario needs to make some allies, or the West or the East will shoot them down everytime. Thats why the American system works so well, Rhode Island's vote is just as important as California's.
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