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Originally Posted by Azure
Thats what you get with a 'simple' outlook.
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What? Your 'simple' outlook can't tell the difference between a number and a %? That it can't tell the difference between economics and freedom? That it can't tell the difference between US economics and Canadian economics? And from the past thread on climate, can't tell the difference between what does't exist and what doesn't exist to average consumers? Or understand the carbon cycle? and so on and so on.
Your initial post was attacking my comment that while Marxist-Leninist ideology is seriously flawed and has shown to fail, I believe I have made a strong enough case that the flip side extremist that capitalism in its truest form is also flawed and we are seeing the consequences of it now. Mightly similar to how the holes in the system started to appear when the iron curtain came down as it is now in the USA, and I'm not just talking about the sub-prime. I've stated many times, the consequence of both extremists is a shaky structure due to corruption and greed, a failing middle class as the separation gap between the rich and everyone else increases, a poor education system for its stature as a world power (in USA), and a failing health care system (in USA). Whats sad is, the fat cats are going to make a killing and continue to make a killing, and alot of the middle and lower class in the USA are and are going to get screwed. I keep saying, extreme economics don't work, but you keep on missing the boat on that some how. I bring a different argument, because of what I have seen, what I have experianced and what I have learned from other peoples with different experiences and different viewpoints. From my knowledge and experiences, China gets dogpilled and a bad rep for their economics while the USA (despite being the butt end of jokes for all other factors) are seemingly the idealized society. And especially in a time where economic times are turbulent, they're also changing as we've seen China's growth the past 10 years grow faster then any other countries economics have ever grown in history... due to capitalistic policies, but subsequent values that come from conservative economics. Meanwhile, at the same time, free-wheeler capitalists are starting to see the warts come out capitalism and the failures are not small and they are not temporary. Thus, my proposed flavour of economics on the side of more socialistic Canadian politics with a more progressive flavour if you need a comparison, but one that really isn't practiced by any socity at the moment.
I don't mind you as a poster, but you are coming off very sarcastic for someone who hasn't brought many/any content to this thread IMO. I'm fine with disagreeing and debating with peter, who obviously knows his stuff although I find its views to be a little too theoretical and academic for my taste. Now I don't claim to be an expert, and I'm willing to admit that peter, FoL and others know this topic better then I do. But ... If you wish to participate, great, but lets keep this discussion on topic rather then making off tangent snide-remarks... especially if you are struggling with the topic. Fair?