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Old 10-05-2008, 12:46 AM   #55
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We can talk about greed in capitalist systems, and its true. But lets not idolize a system that puts deadly chemicals into baby formula in order to increase profits, or use dangerous lead based paints into children's toys in order to reduce assembly costs.
Where did I say I idolize China? Didn't I say the following in that post you just quoted?

Now I'm not saying China or India or whatever are perfect either

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Communism fails because its built to support what they would call the upperclass while treating the working class as if they're simple machines put into place not to strive to be better, but to work and accept a lack of consumer goods.
You could very well replace "communism" with the industrial revolution

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I can't think of any communist country where the economics have worked. I don't know if you can point to the Chinese as a shining example of that based on the fact that the government allows elements of outright capitalism into their markets while retaining a strong centralized government that retains control over the people.
China definately isn't totally communist. I'm no poli sci major, but to me, I'd say they are politically communist and economically capitalist.

Off the top of my head - and I'm no expert - weren't the Romans more or less communist the way they ran things? And the Greeks?

Whats funny is the most successful and robust society seems to be Socialism, as I had said before as probably the closest anything that has worked. And, as I said above, selfishly I prefer capitalism because I know individually it would be the best for me.
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