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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
Bagor,
You want to argue. I don't. Why? Because there is nothing to argue about. It's a useless exercise. You say we need to understand the cause of the problem to solve it. How does my stance, in any way, prevent me from understanding the cause of the problem? Where have I denied human activity as a root cause of climate change?
People waste billions of dollars and hours arguing about the extent to which we have caused this problem.
STOP IT!
Fix it.
How is that not THE perfect stance?
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Nothing to argue about? This thread has already shown there's loads of room for debate whether or not CC is man made, natural (cyclic) or a combination of the two.
Again you seem to miss the simple point that in order to solve the problem we need to understand and arrive at consensus as to the root cause of it.
Palin doesn't attribute CC to man' activities, has a punchline of "drill baby drill" then talks about reducing emissions? Yep, perfect stance.
She then says that she wants to argue about ADAPTATION, not MITIGATION.
Her perfect stance is energy independence (drilling), ADAPTATION (which I admit is important) with a token reduce emissions thrown in the middle.
She does not, apart from a blanket reduce emissions thrown in the middle of a drilling speech talk about fixing anything. She talks about cleaning up the planet whilst being a strong advocate for drilling in one of the few remaining undisturbed, pristine areas of the globe. Laughable.
No one discussed your stance. Why don't you share it? I can only assume given that you find Palin's stance so perfect that it's similar to hers. i.e. you don't attribute CC to man, have a token reduce emissions and support more fossil fuel development. Of course I could be wrong and feel free to correct me.
Billions of dollars. And? Drop in the ocean IMO considering the cash that's going to be forked out for adaptation measures and the trillions that will be lost from the impacts. e.g. On the east coast of England they're already doing a "managed retreat" from the coast. Look at the cost of the Thames flood barrier ($40bn) for one small example.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...es-463191.html