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Originally Posted by fotze
The problem with the anti suburbanites is that they fault the people for purchasing the product that is right for them.
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Well, I think the problem is the idea that there are "pro-suburbanites" and "anti-suburbanites". You are right that people can't be faulted for choosing to live in the suburbs if it is affordable and they want to live there; on the other hand, you can't fault people who see that this style of life is not sustainable
in the long run without cheap energy, massive transport infrastructure and a wasteful use of land - none of which are particularly likely nor sensible.
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Originally Posted by KTown
My taking on this is if they force us all to move into apartments and crowd us in, isn't that telling us where to live and how to live, isn't that a form of communism?
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Yes, yes, "they" are going to put the suburban masses into cattlecars and ship you off to massive concrete slums. Clearly this is the secret plan, but now that you have penetrated the conspiracy we'll have to rethink our plans. Curses!
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This reminds me of the last time there was this discussion - I thought it was reasonable that in 2030-2035 to plan for a quarter million people would living downtown and another million or so out of the core - in other words, 20-25% of the population would live in dense housing with the rest of the city much as it is now. This, of course, was seen as sheer madness and an attempt to socially engineer the population; ignoring the reality that suburbs breed their own version of social engineers whose middle-class values are not the entirety of human experience any more than the inner-city dwelling apartment dweller's are.