Interesting to read about the difference between "bar" rules and "valley" rules, I didn't know anything about valley rules.
As for your game, for the first thing, I agree with the guy. You can't "kiss" off a ball, unless you called it. The way I've always played at the bar, not only do you have to call which pocket, but also how you're going to do it. On the 2nd rule, I agree with him too. You must shoot it forward only(or completely sideways). You can't shoot backwards. As for the "ball in hand" thing, thats junk. I would've put up a stink if someone pulled that on me at the bar, thats clearly not proper "bar" rules.
Bar rules can be pretty anal, I agree. But when playing strangers, I always follow them. If you play your own specific personal way/rules, its bound to lead to a fight, as everyone may play differently. Which is why I always follow the anal bar rules when out at the bar, at least its uniform and everyone can agree. So as anal as it was, I have to agree with everything the guy did, with the exception of the ball-in-hand thing(I've never had anyone do that before at the bar, thats just weird).
PS- On a side note though, was it just you and your two buddies playing at the table for awhile with no other patrons clearly interested in playing, and this guy just decided to join in? Because if it was clear that you guys were just messin around having fun, then in that instance I would've just conformed to your rules if I was the guy. I probably would've been internally rolling my eyes when you thought your kiss counted, and when you thought you could shoot it backwards, but I would've played along, seeing as its just you and your buddies and I joined in. This guy sounds like he was being a dousche. You dont join a group and proceed to dictate the rules.
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