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Originally Posted by Jayems
Instance 1: unless you called the ball off the other one, he's right. I've never played a bar game where 'fluke' shots were allowed.
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disagree, call your pocket how it gets there doesn't matter.
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Instance 2: not sure what you mean, but I've always played that a sunk ball scratch (teeheehee) is you can move the ball anywhere behind the line, but must shoot forward.
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Yeah ball just has to go forward
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Instance 3: If he intentionally tried to 'hook' you, meaning he deliberately made the balls lie so you couldn't hit the 8, then you don't have to worry about scratching. If he didn't do it on purpose, and you don't hit the 8 first, game over.
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If you miss the 8 he gets ball in hand, same if you hit one of his balls first and do not make the 8, if the cue ball goes in a pocket, the 8 goes in the wrong pocket or you sink the 8 after hitting his ball first then you lose.
But then again there are multiple sets of rules but thats how we play.