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Old 09-21-2008, 08:23 PM   #492
jolinar of malkshor
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Not only is this twisting the facts, but I like how its is limited to two weeks. I guess the week leading up to the election where Harper was throwing paper like a ticker tape parade doesn't count then?
Most of those promises where already built into the current budget. Not additional spending items

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I suppose the last couple of budgets where Harper has spent more money than anyother prime minister in history don't count either?
Lets not forget that they made the most money out of any other government as well.


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The Conservatives tell everyone willing to listen that they are the ones who will guide the economy through tough times, but earlier this past year they barely even kept us out of deficit. The Liberals on the other hand not only erased the budget deficit, but got the financial house in order in the first place through the 90's and early part of this decade.
Good god does this piss me off. First, a budget is made up of 12 months. Any person with common sense knows that some months have more income than others, busier times over slower times, thus, a projected budget surplus could easily have some months that ran deficits. Second, the conservatives budgeted the slow down and expected that they may run a deficit for several months before the end of the year brings a surplus. Now, tell me, would you rather have some government who can't figure out the numbers for a budget and have a HUGE surplus because they couldn't add (which usually would mean that the unbudgetted money could be spent on pet projects of the governing party) or a government who tries to establish a budget as close as possible to breaking even.

Now, tell me this. What if a government budgeted to pay 10 billion on the debt, but because of that amount the government was short 1 billion. Now, is that a deficit or can they just pay 9 billion onto the debt and call it an even budget?

I would say it is a even budget. Wouldn't you.

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As far as questions about where the Liberals are getting the money there are a couple of things: A) The full plan has been analysed and sourced in this thread (notably by Mintz on this page). The Green Shift was analysed not only by Mintz but by leading economists in the first place and was also designed with their input.
I see one point here and nothing about articulating where the money will come from.

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Lastly, you can come out and question Dion yourself tomorrow evening. He is in Calgary at the Greenwood Inn at 7:15pm for a townhall meeting. You don't have to like my answers (and really its just politics, at least we all agree on the best NHL team!!), but ask him the questions and see if you like his answers better!
Oh, ya. He is going to answer my questions if I go down there. He is so scared of his green shift now that he wont even talk about it anymore because he has realized that the average Canadian is smart enough to see it for what it is.

I just want Dion to keep talking, because the more he opens his mouth the higher the conservative polls climb.

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