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Old 09-18-2008, 09:54 AM   #463
Ronald Pagan
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14 View Post
Nice commentary but does not address my arguments.

1. immediate action is not required. It is desired. Your statements only show why it is desired. The point, however, is that we should not be rushing blindly into bad plans because of some misplaced argument that doing ANYTHING is better than the status quo.
Well considering almost every major non-partisan Canadian think tank is advocating for a carbon tax (yes even the Canada West Foundation), I take issue with your categorization of such an approach as bad policy. You really haven't offered any analysis into why it is bad beyond it having extra costs.

I have countered saying that the effect on GDP is not nearly as bad as some claim. You retort with patently unimaginative and unconvincing language like "it's a Liberal tax grab" and it's a "green shaft."

Furthermore, we're splicing words here between necessary and desirable. Doing anything is better, I think that I've clearly pointed out that we don't have any time to waste. Disregarding the looming environmental costs (which will have significant economic costs), most modelling shows that the more we stall on implementing real GHG reduction policies the higher the costs to society future policies will have.

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2. Reducing GHGs is important, but it is not the only way in which we affect and pollute our environment. A truly green society will not be created by obsessively focussing on one thing. Especially when the only thing we've come up with on that one obsession are empty plans that do more to play into a guilt trip than actually helping the environment.
Couldn't agree more. Your argument lends credence to mine in that we need real policies.
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