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Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald+Apr 21 2005, 01:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lanny_MacDonald @ Apr 21 2005, 01:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RougeUnderoos@Apr 21 2005, 07:14 PM
I'm going to go out on a real limb here and guess that you don't have the slightest effing clue about native culture or anything else. Everything you know about the situation, which is nothing, you might have learned from conversations with your similarly-educated cronies and a drive-by of an Indian Reservation in Arizona.
It's racism. "They are lazy", "they are stupid", "I wouldn't give an Indian money because I don't like their culture".
What do you think that is? What do you think those words mean if they aren't racist?
"It's fact"? You don't know anything about it.
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Racism. Well, there it is. I was waiting for that to come out. Someone played the trump card. Way to go, I hope you're proud.
Well if we're all so wrong about what the first nations have done, educate us. Feel free to pull out all the success stories of the first nations peoples in Canada and point to all the great things they have done. Where are the great achievements? The great self sustaining infrastructure that they have erected? Any great works of literature? Any great social movements? Or is this too ethnocentric and measuring success against the white man's terms? Then how about pointing out how the first nations have managed their lands so well? How about pointing out how they have embraced their own ways and maintained their culture?
Let's get back to the ethnocentric study for a minute. Care to comment on the high incidents of alcoholism and drug abouse on reserves all across Canada? How about the illiteracy rate? How about mortality rates on reserves? How about the incredible encarcerated population numbers? How about the poverty level (fataing hell, they are GIVEN houses and money every month and there is still a poverty issue!)? Finally, how about the unemployment rate for first nations peoples?
As I have pointed out, I have seen many success stories when it comes to the Native Americans, and they get nothing down here, than I saw in Canada. Why is it? Because Canada fosters an environment that rewards laziness and non-performance for the First Nations. You may argue that it is not all the indians (gasp, I used the "I" word) fault, but its time they started taking responsibility for their lack of action and development of their own society. This blame the white man stuff just doesn't sell anymore IMO.
And please don't try that, "you don't know anything about native culture" shinguard. What most natives know of their own culture can be written down on a single page of paper. That is a well documented problem within the reserves all over North America, the youth not learning the ways of their people and the loss of the Native cultures. That's the pot calling the kettle black IMO and is nothing but a smoke screen to the fact that you have nothing to support your argument. [/b][/quote]
When someone says "Indians are stupid", which you did, it's racism. What is the difference between saying...
Black people are lazy.
White people are evil.
Jewish are cheap.
and "Indians are stupid"? Nothing. It's all the same thing. Tough break.
And I didn't play the trump card. In case you missed it the whole goddamn thread was dedicated to racism directed towards Indians in Canada. Obviously there is.
You've proven it.