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Well geez. I'm sorry but what's coming out of the Gomery inquiry is indeed attack worthy. Not only that, it is legitimate stuff to attack the Liberals about as opposed to all the 'hidden agenda' garbage directed at the CPC. As far as i'm concerned, the Liberal Party has now degenerated to the point where pretty much any party is better than them simply because they are not Liberal.
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So tell me why I should support the CPC based solely on their own merits, rather than resorting to the excuse "anybody is better than the Liberals".
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http://www.conservative.ca/documents...ECLARATION.pdf
Don't agree with the policies? Fine. Don't vote for em. All i'm saying, again, is don't vote Liberal. Before it was cause they are incompetent and wasteful in my eyes, now it is because they are corrupt. This is not idle speculation that they are corrupt, it is being proven. And it's not just the card carrying Liberal chef at caucus meetings that is corrupt, it's high ranking Liberal officials.
If you and that thing you call a political party want to support corrupt government there are plenty of other countries you can move to where you'll fit right in.
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I personally don't believe a Conservative government would be an improvement.# I'm not the least bit happy about the scandal, but if a few million a year of defrauded tax revenue (which was all likely committed by individuals no longer part of the Martin government) is the cost I must pay to keep the CPC out of power, I'm more than willing to accept that.
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That's great logic. So, just so we're on the same page, pretend you own a multi-million dollar company. I come and work for you. I steal, say, 1000 dollars. Are you telling me that you would still keep my on company payroll and not fire me simply because:
a) 1000 dollars is not that much money.
b) You are too scared to hire someone else?
That's what i'm gathering from this. It's okay to steal in government, just don't steal too much. It's still better than the alternative. The alternative which has undergone several changes since the last time it was in government and has not been in power for the last decade+ so really, it's hard to tell if they'd be corrupt or waste as much money as the Liberals. Until this is proven like it is being proven for the Liberal Party, i'm willing to take my chances elsewhere.
Again, if this was an isolated incident I probably would be more inclined to be leniant. This is not an isolated incident though. This was high ranking Liberals doing the stealing, and high ranking Liberals (in all likelyhood) knowing about it. Frankly, i'm more frightened about what sorts of fraud and corruption has happened at the hands of the Liberals that we don't know about as opposed to the 'scary' CPC.
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And I'm far from alone in that attitude.# Perhaps conservative Canadians need to examine why it is that their party is so hated by many in the nation that even when their opponents steal taxpayers' money they're still willing to put up with them.
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I pray you are wrong in your assessment that there are alot more blind followers of the Liberal Party, even after what has happened. Frankly, I have no idea why you people will continue to support the Liberal Party now. I also have no idea why your kind fears the CPC so much, though I suspect it has something to do with the Liberal clap trap that comes out of the party ever so often. It really defies logic though.
I will take the baby eating CPC party over corrupt government any day of the week. Again, move to Zimbabwe or something if you want to support corrupt government, which is exactly what you are doing...