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Old 09-10-2008, 10:37 PM   #185
JiriHrdina
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier View Post
Well I just accept that for what it is, but I don't take that assumption to gas pump jockeys (I pump my own gas anyways), pizza pick up (sorry no tip) and as I said, tip the 10/15/20% depending.

But the idea to tip so that poor kids can have cars and go drinking on friday nights seems sort of dumb to me. I just can't understand a 16-17 year old demanding (not getting paid, but feeling an entitlement) to $30 a hr no matter what the situation is. If you get it for doing something, great, but don't see it as an entitlement. For instance, for me / my ex-gf, we both marked for the local community collage while doing our undergraduate university degree and we were making an avg $30-40 per hr. Didn't demand it, just what the salary was. The one thing that really bothered me is when we were dating (and after, sort of a long story) she felt this entitlement that she should get more then $120 in a night of tips, and would be all pissy and bitchy if she didn't get that - why? Because thats the expectation/entitlement they feel they deserve, in tips. Thats $30 a hr in tips, tax-free. For the few (semi-ish) customer service jobs I worked (ushering, parking attendent) when I was in HS, I got paid min wage ($5.75 per hr, later on $5.90 per hr) and probably got just as much bitching/moaning, did have beer spashed/spilled on me a few times and never felt an entitlement to a tip nor ever got one either - so from my POV, I just can't understand how they can be so whiny and say its such a terrible job. If its so bad, quit, find a different job. You're getting paid approx $30 per hr, tax-free, just feel glad that you are making a killing and I'll just keep following the standard tipping so my food I'm getting served doesn't get tampered.
Fact is if people want decent service at all the food industry will need to attract people. They will do this by paying them a certain amount - either with tips, or by upping salaries/hourly rate. Ultimately we are going to pay on way or the other.

The alternative is cutting out tips, keeping wages down and then we can all have the pleasure of being served by a 15 year old pimply kid who can't remember anything, doesn't give a rat's rear end about his job, and makes the experience of going to a resteraunt less enjoyable.

Folks seem to be letting a couple bad experiences with whiney waiters who feel entitled spoil the whole lot. Most servers I know are hard working people, who take pride in what they do. They are paid what the market sets for their services, like anything else. And yes - that does include tips.
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