View Single Post
Old 09-05-2008, 01:14 PM   #124
Bent Wookie
Guest
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fredr123 View Post
Your quote was from the portion of the headnote derived from the decision of Dickson C.J. and Wilson, La Forest and Sopinka JJ. Those were the four Justices who combined to write for the four member MINORITY decision. Ladouceur was a controversial decision decided by a 5-4 majority. It was from the majority decision that I took my excerpts.



Both the majority and the minority were of the opinion that an aribitrary detention occurred in violation of s. 9 of the Charter. The majority felt, however, that the Ontario legislation was saved by s. 1. The minority disagreed on this point.

There was more to the song and dance under the Ontario act than I quoted. Under that legislation, drivers are obligated to have a valid license and to have it with them. Similar requirements are imposed upon drivers in Alberta under our Traffic Safety Act. In my opinion, the sections I quoted from the Ontario act are analogous to the sections I quoted from the Alberta act. Traffic safety legislation is pretty uniform across the country in this respect in large part because of decision like Ladouceur.

If you're referring to the driver in this thread who got a ticket for his expired insurance card, then yah, the sections I quoted don't have much to do with that. They do, however, speak directly to an officer's power to stop you as you're driving along minding your own business.

Thanks for the debate Fred. However, unless an officer can articulate the reason for a traffic stop beyond stating he was checking for documents (unless of course he can prove that it was part of a systemic and random check that he had been conducting that evening, through the week, month, etc) the stop will be seen as a charter breach.

What I was getting it from those 2 other provincial statutes you quoted was that they imply duties of a driver and not powers of a police officer.
  Reply With Quote