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Old 08-24-2008, 06:53 PM   #98
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Originally Posted by PowerPlayoffs06 View Post
It seems pretty arrogant and stuck up to me to proclaim that everything after Justice isn't Metallicas "real stuff."
Actually it's very true to say that. Because it wasn't Metallica's stuff, it was Bob Rock's version of Metallica's stuff. Bob Rock is known as a "hitmaker". He takes a band's song concept, waters it down, overproduces and oversimplifies it in order to make it radio friendly. Hell, he even goes so far as to write and play on the band's albums, completely overstepping his boundaries. Before the black album, Metallica had a raw, edgy, and somewhat complex sound that they lost when Rock got hold of them. As Fanin80 says, they wrote complex operatic-type songs that were fast, gritty and melodic. With the black album, the departure from those songs couldn't have been more complete, as they were all of a sudden churning out 4-minute, assembly line sounding radio and video friendly songs that (and this is the true crime in fan's eyes who had listened to the earlier stuff) sounded just like everything else out there at the time.

As far as your name calling and such, you really need to stop that, because it really shows your ignorance of music at the time. And by that I'm not calling you down, as you say you were an infant when Metallica first came out, so you couldn't possibly understand what was happening then.

You need to realize that at the time Metallica came around, basically the hardest thing out there was probably Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and Ozzy who really weren't all that well known over here anyway, so we were being bombarded with crap like madonna, the go-go's, lionel ritchie, the cars, etc. (in other words, mainstream garbage that would make you cringe just hearing the first few notes) There were really no FM stations around that played anything harder, although there were some AM stations that had shows on for an hour or two on a friday or saturday night that played the harder 70's stuff, like Zeppelin, Queen, T-Rex, that sort of stuff. All of a sudden we get word of a band that is smoking fast, really hard, and incredibly talented as musicians, something that we had been waiting for. It was an entirely new genre of music that spawned many imitators, and started a musical revolution on the same scale as Nirvana did in the 90's. For a lot of people, Metallica became the band that spoke to them, for them, and, most importantly, was thiers. Some people saw Metallica as musical saviours, and became incredibly engrossed in the band and the music. And no doubt to some fans, they probably felt in a world where their parent's, teachers, siblings, etc didn't understand them all they had was Metallica. (overly dramatic to be sure, but there were people out there like that, I've seen it firsthand)

Then after 5 short albums they become Rock-isized, and became a bland, overpolished shell of what they once were, and as FanIn80 has also pointed out, completely changed musical styles overnight. To those people completely wrapped up in Metallica, the change was probably devastating to them.

Personally by the time that album came out there were enough other bands out there basically playing the same type of music that I had moved on, so I never really got caught up in the whole backlash against them. But I will tell you that when I finally did get around to buying it it got used for pellet gun target practice after one listen.

*sorry, didn't mean for this to get so long
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