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Old 07-25-2008, 11:13 PM   #37
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Alright, let's go, smart guy/girl...
I'm sure jammies is more than capable of defending himself (and I encourage him to do so) but I'm stuck home on a Friday night packing to move across the country on Monday and I'm procrastinating, so I'm going to bite as well.

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Why do you get to be so offended because someone knocked on your door and invited you to join their church?! Boo effin' hoo. Mormons interupting your Jerry Springer hour doesn't give you free reign to have a hissy fit. Just say, "No thank you." and move on with the rest of your life. I am not a hypocrite because I go to church on Sunday.
What? Really, what? He said "And at least the Wiccans aren't all fixated on telling other people what their morals should be." and that is what you respond with? Who said anything about Mormons?

This also does nothing to argue against his real point that there is just as much evidence of the Wiccan belief structure as that of any other religion. And if you go to church on Sunday, and mock someone else for what they believe, you ARE a hypocrite.

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In my analogy, "hockey fan" = "being religious" and "supporting a particular team while I support another" = "having a certian set of beliefs that differs from my own" doesn't appear to me to be that vague or obtuse. An Oiler fan would probably agree that they like hockey, and someone who practices Wicca would probably admit to being somewhat religious.
Hockey fan does not = being religious. It's not even close to the same thing at all. Being religious is a core belief, being a hockey fan is entertainment.

Even if we grant you that it's ok analogy it still fails. If you say that you believe being a hockey fan is an important part of your existence, then you WOULD be a hypocrite for ragging on Oil fans because it's also an important part of their existence as well and which team you cheer for is irrelevant.

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I think my comparison was perfectly clear to the majority of CP'ers.
Not this one.

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I wasn't mocking the religion, I was mocking the sensitivity of dissentowner. Was dissentowner expecting people to write about how brave he/she was to come out and state his/her Wiccan beliefs? Or ask how they can become Wiccan?
He was asking if anyone shared his beliefs? Is that not a valid question? It is so shocking to expect that there might be others out there? And yeah it was pretty brave, cosidering the general public sentiment towards Wiccans, and I do respect him for it.

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Good point, nobody puts down Christians, especially here on CP.
Already addressed this in my previous post.

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I think it is perfectly clear that your biases towards organized religion are preventing you from making competent responses in this thread. Please prove me wrong, or refrain from posting further.
Unnecessary.

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You are correct. I used quotation marks incorrectly.
You used them to trivialize a belief that is different from your own. Pretty rude.
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