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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Are they really?
The opponents of reason aren't a threat here in Canada. They may be "well organized", but their organization skills aren't going to get them anywhere in this country, even in Alberta.
I understand that using "Darwin/ian/ism" can be polarizing or an easy target, but so what? Let them be polarized. Let 'em have that easy target.
There has been a lot of ink dedicated to the notion that anti-evolutionary claptrap can't be taken seriously because if it is then it might actually be taken seriously. There would be the illusion of a debate. Of "competing theories". Makes sense to me. There isn't a debate. They can't be taken seriously.
Changing the lingo or removing Darwin's name so they don't have something or someone to attack seems to me that the evolution "side" is playing into their hands and admitting that "they" might have a leg to stand on.
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Notwithstanding the rest of your post, I would say Yes they really are organized. You've got the Discovery institute, you've got that movement releasing bulls**t motion pictures that get played on hundreds or thousands of screens, you've got coordinated legal attacks such as the Dover trial. They are organized. If you think that the winds of change won't blow through the conservative movement in Canada if the ID movement is somehow successful in the States, I think you're being naive. I spend a fair amount of time looking at Canadian political discussion forums, and everytime ID comes up, many of the most vocal conservatives express their belief in the cause. If the US legal system ever grants legitimacy to the arguments made by the ID movement, it would definitely send a shockwave through Canadian society as well.
While you and I might not take them seriously and understand that there is no scientific debate, the war for the average voter doesn't play the same way, especially in the US. I used to make the mistake of overestimating the discernment of the average voter to see through nonsense, but the political events of this decade strongly suggest otherwise.