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Originally posted by Flame On+Apr 10 2005, 12:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flame On @ Apr 10 2005, 12:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaptainCrunch@Apr 8 2005, 11:04 PM
To me the fact of the matter is that Martin shouldn't even be running in the next election if his government falls.#
Anyone in a leadership position knows, that if your at the head of the party, or a company, or a military unit, that you are responsible for the actions of your organization.# Not knowing is no excuse.
Basically if you knew and ignored it or covered it up your liable.
If you didn't know, your incompetent and you shouldn't be there.
The only way that the liberals survive this is if Martin leaves politics.# Senior leadership is gutted and Chretien is hauled away in handcuffs.
But of course the liberals have put enough money in the courts and the special interest groups that thier protected.# Chances are some minor functionary who we've never heard of before will fall on his sword.
Canada is great country with great people and great potential.# too bad all of the scumbags gravitate towards government.
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Is your real name Gareth Keenan?
There are examples of leaders who don't get punished for huge mistakes those under them have made, and there's those that don't get punished when they themselves got it dead wrong. Try G.W.Bush for instance, his teflon coating meant nothing stuck to him to take the fall, well that and Karl Rove.
You say the leader should go down and be responsible fine. Paul Martin wasn't the leader though at the time the fraud was occuring.
Not really sticking up for Martin per se, but the liberals in general are not a few law breakers amongst them.
I just don't see the cons getting in anyway so I don't mind, too much to be affraid of them for in their social policy, rightly or wrongly. [/b][/quote]
Paul Martin might not have been the leader per say, but he was the deputy prime minister, and he was the finance minister of the country. He was also the number two man in the Liberal party. He was also named as the successor to that thug Chretian. He had a responsibility to know every aspect of what his party was doing.
The AdScam issue has been ongoing for two years, he knew what was going on, and if he didn't he's an idiot for not finding out.
Now its coming out on a public forum.
Paul Martin is just as responsible as anybody.
He laughed off the HRDC scandal. He supported Chretian when Jean was trying to get his criminal friends loans. When the gun registry spiraled into the billion dollar mark, he said nothing.
So either he knew and is criminal and shouldn't be prime minister, or he's a moron and shouldn't be prime minister. Nice choices.
It'll be interesting to see this weeks Gomery results when some of the bigger guns testify.
At the very least Chretian should be stripped of his pension and imprisoned. At the most, Martin, chretien and the other Liberal cronies sould lose thier pensions and imprisoned, and the Liberal party should have to pay back every penny that was stolen from the tax payers. They should also be severly sanctioned until they come clean.
I'm sick of the Canadian system of government, its clear that it dosen't work.
And frankly everytime I do my taxes or look at my paycheck, I can't stand the Liberal's. I don't feel like I'm getting my fair share for my efforts. Yes the Canadian Government has erased thier yearly deficit, but its on the backs of the tax payers, rich and poor. To be honest, I don't mind paying my fair share of things, however when the tax rate is going to continue to spiral upwards, or I get a .54 cent savings in tax breaks its not worth it. While the cost of living in Canada has increased monumentally, so has the amount of money that the government is taking from us to fund stupid program, and irrelevant arts programs, oh and to lose billions to graft and corruption.
Its getting ridiculous.