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troutman · 07-10-2008, 08:48 AM

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Let's say that NASA really is a massive Masonic-Illuminati-whatever conspiracy, as Hoagland claims. If that were true, is it really likely that they would ever release pictures at all? If they knew about evidence of aliens on Mars, then why not just launch probes in secret? The military has lots of secret launches, for example. NASA need never have any Mars probes the public would find out about.

If NASA didn't know about aliens, they certainly would after the first time they went to Mars, if finding the evidence is as easy as Hoagland claims. So why release any more images? They could simply claim the probe stopped working. Hoagland claims they digitally alter images, so following his logic they could just fake any more images they needed.

So if Hoagland is right, then why does NASA keep sending probes to Mars in the first place? And why release images immediately? If he is right, then obviously NASA must have a team of people examining every image for potentially embarrassing signs of aliens. Yet even with that, Hoagland says that all these images show obvious signs of aliens. See the inherent contradiction? If the signs are obvious, why would NASA release the images? The far more likely conclusion is that Hoagland is completely wrong. If he were right, we'd never see these images to begin with. So like the claim above, some of the best evidence that Hoagland is wrong is that we see the images in the first place!

Another point: if somehow NASA were surprised by evidence of aliens in a Mars image, and Hoagland was on to them, wouldn't it be far easier just to snuff him? A lot of unsolved murders happen every day in cities here in the US, and I suspect that if the Big Bad Evil Government wanted to have someone disappear, it would be a lot easier and less risky than getting the whistle blown. Think about it. If Hoagland is right, and the government were that evil and nefarious, then they have nothing to lose by offing Hoagland (or any whistle blower). If they get exposed in the process, then it doesn't really matter, since he was about to expose them anyway. And if they do it successfully, then no one need ever know.

The very fact that Hoagland can scream about a conspiracy is some of the best evidence that there isn't one.

07-10-2008, 08:48 AM	#17
troutman Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Crowsnest Pass Exp:	http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc...nclusions.html Let's say that NASA really is a massive Masonic-Illuminati-whatever conspiracy, as Hoagland claims. If that were true, is it really likely that they would ever release pictures at all? If they knew about evidence of aliens on Mars, then why not just launch probes in secret? The military has lots of secret launches, for example. NASA need never have any Mars probes the public would find out about. If NASA didn't know about aliens, they certainly would after the first time they went to Mars, if finding the evidence is as easy as Hoagland claims. So why release any more images? They could simply claim the probe stopped working. Hoagland claims they digitally alter images, so following his logic they could just fake any more images they needed. So if Hoagland is right, then why does NASA keep sending probes to Mars in the first place? And why release images immediately? If he is right, then obviously NASA must have a team of people examining every image for potentially embarrassing signs of aliens. Yet even with that, Hoagland says that all these images show obvious signs of aliens. See the inherent contradiction? If the signs are obvious, why would NASA release the images? The far more likely conclusion is that Hoagland is completely wrong. If he were right, we'd never see these images to begin with. So like the claim above, some of the best evidence that Hoagland is wrong is that we see the images in the first place! Another point: if somehow NASA were surprised by evidence of aliens in a Mars image, and Hoagland was on to them, wouldn't it be far easier just to snuff him? A lot of unsolved murders happen every day in cities here in the US, and I suspect that if the Big Bad Evil Government wanted to have someone disappear, it would be a lot easier and less risky than getting the whistle blown. Think about it. If Hoagland is right, and the government were that evil and nefarious, then they have nothing to lose by offing Hoagland (or any whistle blower). If they get exposed in the process, then it doesn't really matter, since he was about to expose them anyway. And if they do it successfully, then no one need ever know. The very fact that Hoagland can scream about a conspiracy is some of the best evidence that there isn't one.