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Old 04-07-2005, 08:06 PM   #88
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I didn't mock anyone but Stockwell and people who believe what we both have deemed "stupid". Not Christians in general or conservatives in particular. Just him and the ones who believe that nonsense.
And yet you have disqualified the Conservative Party because of one man's beliefs. One man who's beliefs do not represent party policy, and whom does not represent your riding (presumably).

While you may not mock Christians in general, it appears to me that you are more than happy to paint all Conservatives with the same brush.

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His beliefs have plenty to do with his ability to do his job.# Stockwell himself would be the first to admit that he doesn't leave his hardass Christian values at home when he goes to work in the morning.# To suggest that his 24/7 fundamentalist bent would have no effect on the performance of his job is, I think, stupid.# So that makes three of us.
There is not a human on earth who leaves their values at home when they go to work. We are defined by them, and our attitudes and decisions are shaped by them. To ask a person to do something like that is to ask them to be an entirely different person.

In the Canadian political system, politicans vote for three reasons.

1. They are told to by the party leader.
2. They are told to by whoever is paying them off.
3. They vote their conscience.

Day's beliefs may have made him too much of an extremist to be a viable party leader because of option 1, but as an MP their impact is minimal. No more so than any other MP's beliefs.

Also, there is far more to a politician than his religious beliefs. I'd take Day and his "world started 10,000 years ago" faith over Rick McIver any day, and that has a lot to do with their records as politicians.

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The guy would be the foreign affairs minister for crying out loud.# You think it's okay that the guy making some rather important decisions about Canada's place in the world also happens to believe that dinosaurs might have had saddles?# I don't.
I honestly would not be bothered by it. Mainly because I do not see how such a belief would affect how he performs that job.

Would you have a problem if our Foreign Affairs minister were openly gay?

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Yeah, because only straight white conservative guys get ridiculed and ostracized.# Feminists, homosexuals, environmentalists, immigrants... nobody ever ridicules or ostracizes them.
You missed the point.

Society is fighting bigotry against the "weaker" group by condoning bigotry against the "stronger" one.

I never stated or implied that feminists, homosexuals, environmentalists, immigrants, etc are not ridiculed or ostrasized. I am stating that society will not fight as hard for a man as it will a woman.

Or for a Christian as hard as it will for a Muslim.

Etc.

It is not politically correct to do so. It is, ironically, better to be a bigot than it is to appear one. All that matters is where your bigotry lies.

But then, I've never bought into the idea that I should feel guilty for being a man. Or white. Or heterosexual. Or Christian (nominally).
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