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Originally Posted by Cheese
I personally dont give a fart...but
GOD KEEP OUR LAND?
Reference to a god did not appear in any constitution-type document in this country until 1982. Then the phrase “Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God” was arbitrarily inserted. On June 27, 1980, the National Anthem was mysteriously transformed into a prayer with the addition of the phrase “god keep our land. . .” Article XIX of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights holds that “Everyone has a right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference. . . It is certainly interference to use the force of law to compel several million Canadian atheists to join in religious exercises or thoughts through the inclusion of the god references in documents meant for all Canadians. A letter to Justice Minister Alan Rock results in a reply that includes the following: “the Charter applies equally to everyone in Canada and does not advantage or disadvantage anyone on the basis of their religious beliefs.” Mr. Rock apparently excludes about 3 million Canadians who hold no religious beliefs, from the group “everyone”. He does not answer the question as to how atheists should respond to the singing of the National Anthem(prayer), Sit in embarrassed silence? Wait in the hall?
oh and the court thing...I was just on Jury and you dont need to swear on a bible unless you desire to do so. Of the 12 members on my jury 9 decided not to.
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Okay, I don't want to get into it with you again, but come on, please tell me you don't agree with the guy who thinks that that line in the preamble actully means that athiests are excluded from the Charter.
I'm failing to see how acknowledgeing the faith of the people who founded the country excludes the 3 million athiests in the country from what is a list of secular rights.
Please explatin to me how things like the language laws, right against unlawful search, against self incrimination, freedom of speach and of the press, etc etc, are not applicable to athiests simply because the first line says something to the effect of "We're writing this document based on the pricipals of guys who founded this country a long time ago who just happened to be christian"
Show me one right that the charter guarantess that excludes athiests, and show me one that any athiest would reject based on it's "Chistian" roots.