[Save Us Sutter]

So I somehow managed to miss this thread. Wowzers. Few things I feel compelled to add to the discussion.....

My deepest sympathies are with you and your family WK but I must admit I was also confused by a couple of your posts. Seemed in some posts you are saying racist things, and in others you are freakin' out at others for doing the same thing? Fatso, maybe not the best thing to say (stop posting) but was pretty silly that even after apologizing you were still getting crapped on for it.

For the PC Conspiracy crowd. I understand being annoyed by hardcore PCers. However, you sound ridiculous when you say things like "the truth is being hidden" or "i can't say what I really think". I encourage you all to say what you really think. Fatso made many good points, but no one attacked his arguments, just a couple inconsequential remarks he made. Isn't that what you're accusing him of? Derailing a discussion? Odd.

In between all the crap, there was a pretty good discussion in this thread though. My thanks to IFF and flylock (among others)for some insightful comments and for doing some research on the topic.

I would be very interested to hear what our Native posters think are reasonable, realistic solutions to the problems their members face. It's pretty easy for outsiders to see that there is trouble but really, change must come from within mustn't it? Not implying that the government shouldn't be involved... just saying true knowledge of the situation is going to come from those who are living in it.